Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

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Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby shannon74 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:03 am

Hi guys.

Im hoping that someone may remember this bike or have further photos.

Recently I discovered a frame that I initially identified as a TR500 frame but upon purchase and later inspection, It appears to be a TR250 frame.

A few inquiries has established that it is possibly a NZ Steve ROBERTS built frame made for the USA Suzuki team and campaigned in 1970 at Daytona. One of the riders identified was Jody Nicholas.

I have located a black and white photo of an identical bike in Ray BATTERSBY's 'Team Suzuki' book. The pic depicts Jody NICHOLAS standing beside the bike without fairing. The frame geometry, shape,fairing mounts and ignition coil mounts are in the same place and the overall shape of the main frame is very unique ( as seen in the picture). The tanks appears to have been modified or possibly not original to the bike.

Prior to purchasing the chassis it was for sale as a rolling chassis with 35mm ceriani forks and front/rear ceriani brakes. Unfortunately the owner sold these parts before i saved the frame.

Secondly, if someone has contact with Jody or can give me some contact details for Steve Roberts, I would really appreciate the help.

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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby bsracer » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:07 pm

I saw Jody at Jim McMurren's memorial in January. I think he is still in So Cal (Santa Ana) and I think he is on Facebook.

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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby TeeZed » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:21 pm

Hi Shannon,

Are you sure that is TR250 frame? I'm certainly no authority on the subject, but it doesn't look like a TR250 frame to me. Again I could be mistaken, but I've never seen a TR250 tank like that. :? I need to do more research.

Regardless, what wonderful fine.

Don
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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby shannon74 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:00 pm

Hi Don

If you look at the black and white photo and compare the tank to the colour one, there are many similar lines.
Im sure that the tank has been modeled from the TR500 Daytona tank and may be an original factory tank with some modifications.

I have discovered some information that suggests Steve Roberts built 2 bikes for the US Suzuki team for 1970 Daytona campaign. The engine used was based on the T250 and not the T20. A TR500 kokusan racing magneto and coils were used The back and white photo is Jody with the 1970 bike which i believe is one of the 2 bikes.

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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby Dave E » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:17 pm

Shannon,

you should talk to Mike Pettifer in Oz, regarding these frames, I believe he had one at one time. As you think, they were made by Steve Roberts.

You may recall me from way back when we corresponded over TR500`s

Dave, :) :)

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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby TeeZed » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:32 pm

shannon74 wrote:Hi Don

If you look at the black and white photo and compare the tank to the colour one, there are many similar lines.
Im sure that the tank has been modeled from the TR500 Daytona tank and may be an original factory tank with some modifications.


Yes! Looks like a TR500 tank.

shannon74 wrote:I have discovered some information that suggests Steve Roberts built 2 bikes for the US Suzuki team for 1970 Daytona campaign. The engine used was based on the T250 and not the T20.


Indeed. That is not a T20 engine. The T250 mill was a much improved.

Don
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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby Northracing » Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:23 am

I know nothing of classic Suzukis but the frame certainly appears to resemble the black and white photo. A unique feature is the rise in the frame at the rear shock mounts, not typical of other period featherbed type frames of the era. The fuel tank appears to have had a dry-break fuel connection on the top and as far as I am aware, refueling during a race was only an issue at Daytona in North America during this era so very likely is from a Daytona bike.

Very nice find.

Derek
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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby Dave E » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:54 pm

Shannon,

I have found the photo that Mike Pettifer sent me of his frame, with a TR500 engine fitted. On the back of the photo Mike wrote......

' Ex Keith Turner 'Small Frame' bike.......frame copied from 1970 TR250 with obvious mods to swing up mounts and front tubes to fit 500 engine. Note diagonal rear brace - Suzuki copied this for 1972 TR750 - Steve Roberts laughs about it now - didn`t achieve anything as problems with handling stemmed from rear units'.
The frame is very much like yours apart from the obvious mods.
PM me your email address and I will scan and send you the photo, regret don`t have the nous to put on here.

Dave

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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby Twinshock750 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:05 pm

I don't have his contact details but Steve Roberts is still alive and well, living in or near Whanganui here in NZ.
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Re: Jody Nicholas TR250 - Daytona 1970

Postby Scooter3 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:26 am

Hi. I have a Steve Roberts tr250 and I know Steve Roberts. Steve told me that Ron Grant crashed his tr250 at tellardaga . He brought the damaged frame to New Zealand for steve to repair. Steve repaired the frame and then made a jig and made a new frame which Ron took back to america. I have been told that the frame in my bike is the repaired frame. My grane is the same as the one in the photo
Cheers Brett


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